Robert_e_bone I have sent several feature requests to Sonar over the past couple of years, asking for Step Sequencer to be able to deal with a non-quarter meter base, as well, to no avail. ![]() If ANYONE has a better workaround, I am all ears (I suppose it would be all eyes, since I would be reading the responses). Can you IMAGINE what playing along with a click track to that sounds like? Soooooooo, Mr Sharke - I COMPLETELY feel your pain. To enter that in Sonar's Step Sequencer, I have to enter the first measure at 4/4, then double the tempo and insert a meter change to 7/4, then return the tempo to normal and insert a meter change back to 4/4, then insert another tempo change to double it again and insert a meter change to 5/4. The song has arpeggio acoustic guitar notes. Here is one nightmarish example: I have a song snippet, which is a cyclic repeating rhythmic pattern of one measure of each of the following - 4/4, 7/8, 4/4, 5/8 then the pattern repeats. One of the things I am trying to do is create sequenced midi versions of some really complex progressive/fusion tunes, and to have to put them out there on the web KNOWING they all have this embedded nonsense in them really frustrates me to no end. ![]() PLEASE? It has gotten to the point where I just keep putting off sequencing up songs, because I KNOW how many hoops I will have to go through to keep the tempos changing from doubled to normal and all of the above. I know that the odd-meter folks are a small subset of the Cakewalk universe, but really, this stuff is aggravating and I wish it would get some attention in development. I then have to mark up printed scores like an AMATEUR to explain why the measure numbers and notation are wrong. Worse still is that MANY of the songs I sequence up have a multitude of odd time signatures, so I end up with CRAZY tempo maps and things that while they sound right are going back and forth from taking the right amount of measures to all of a sudden needing TWO measures instead of one to represent the notes, due to having to have a quarter note in the meter base rather than the desired EIGHTH note. It drives me absolutely NUTS to have to create clips of what should be 6/8 in Step Sequencer instead as clips of 6/4 - where I then have to also DOUBLE the song's tempo to get things to play back correctly. I have sent several feature requests to Sonar over the past couple of years, asking for Step Sequencer to be able to deal with a non-quarter meter base, as well, to no avail. That to me seems like the right way to do it. You can still feel it or count it any way you want but the actual number of audible metronome clicks is directly related to the number set in the top part of the time sig. It is silly to not hear the subdivisions. If I set 12/8 at 120 BPM I hear all twelve clicks per bar so I really get the triplet thing. If I put my time sig into say 7/8 or 9/8 I hear the same thing 7 or 9 eighth note clicks per bar with the first one accented. The first one can be accented or have a different sound too which is handy. Putting my metronome into 6/8 creates 6 eighth note clicks per bar and at the right BPM of 104 as sharke mentions in his OP. Firstly the tick resolution or pulses per quarter note should not have anything to do with it and that is the case with Studio One that is for sure. ![]() I can give you some insight as to how Studio One handles time signatures. It sounds to me it is the way Sonar is handling time signatures and it is probably more complex than it should be.
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